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Feb 13, 2008 -
Kelly -
Ref#:213113456
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For long term maintenance purposes, our final as-built road traverse information is usually stored internally using slope distance/driving distance, in order to send contractors to specific areas for grading/clean-outs etc.
I have read the Industry guide and can't quite determine whether the ABR submissions must be in horizontal distance or slope distance for total length of the road sections and for point features. Thank you in advance. |
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Aug 13, 2007 -
Chris -
Ref#:813161413
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Hi,
With the release of ABR 2.0 is there a what's new document or an updated ESF submission guide. If there is, would it be possible to have a link posted to the location of this?
(there seems to be a problem with the ABR_Submission_Creation_Guide_v2_Rev6.doc file on the web links, it will not open)?
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Aug 14, 2007 -
Mark Ismay -
There is no 'What's New" document for ABR release 2.0. This release has no changes to the schema or submission requirements.
The main change in this release of ABR was to migrate the application to a new database, which included changes to the database structure. This change will allow us to produce some reports for ABR submitters that could not be produced before.
Other changes to the appliation included improved spatial validation, better error messages for empty submissions or submissions with duplicate road sections, and correction of a reprojection issue that was causing some submissions to fail.
The link to the ABR_SUBMISSION_CREATION_GUIDE ( http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/his/esf/assets/abr/version02/ABR_Submission_Creation_Guide_v2_Rev6.doc) does work, however it is a large document that takes some time to download.
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Feb 27, 2007 -
Mike -
Ref#:227091848
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We submitted 2 road sections in the same Road Permit. Both road sections had valid sectin ID's and passed the submission.
We later discovered that the section ID's were reversed from what is in FTA. In other words we used section "A" for the first road and section "B" for the second road whereas FTA has the first road as section "B" and the second road as section "A".
Can I just re-submit both roads using the correct section ID or do I have to contact someone for assistance? |
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Feb 15, 2007 -
Lew Greentree -
Ref#:215155457
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Hello,
I've noticed that many ABR roads in the LRDW have a Forest_file_id with a forestlicence value (like A20002 )rather than a Road Permit forest file id (like R09993). What database does ABR check against to determine acceptable forest_file_id's?
Thanks
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Feb 15, 2007 -
The ABR roads in LRWD with a Forest File Id for a Forest Licence are on-block roads. The ABR submissions are validated against FTA, prior to updating the database. On-Block roads are checked for a valid Forest_File_Id, Timber_Mark, and Cut_Block_Id, Road Permits and FSRs are validated for Forest_File_id and Road_Section_ID.
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Oct 20, 2006 -
Patricia Humphreys -
Ref#:1020113602
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We have encountered some confusion interpreting ABR reporting requirements for new construction. Does "new construction" mean only new roads are required to be reported (NEW ROAD) and the rest of the activities are optional? Or does it mean all new construction activities are required to be reporting (NEW ROAD, REACTIVATE, RELOCATE, SURF, WIDEN)?
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Aug 14, 2006 -
Ref#:814104149
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Is a construction activity required to be submitted prior to a deactivation activity? I have a situation where this did not occur and when the construction activity was submitted, it failed with an error message "Road Section 3: Failed - Deactivation roadDeactivationLevel is mandatory". Is there a rule in place that if a road has been submitted as "deactivated", will only accept a "reactivation" activity? Do we need to submit every single activity, or just the latest and greatest from the last year? Is the old activity "overwritten" by the new activity? |
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Aug 15, 2006 -
Mark Ismay -
Prior submission of a construction activity is not required for submission of a deactivated road in ABR. The submission for deactivation Must include the Data Quality information for TRIM, and we would prefer it to include an event (or events) to describe the construction dates of the road, however the construction events are not mandatory. If the construction date is unknown for old roads, and estimate will suffice. The error message "Failed - Deactivation roadDeactivationLevel is mandatory" means that the submission requires a deactivation level code, such as:
DP
See page 26 of the User Guide for an example. For any recently deactivated roads, the Deactivation Level code should be "DP" - Permanent. Older deactivations may be Temporary or Semi-Permanent Deactivation.
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Jul 17, 2006 -
Ref#:717093414
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Hello, Going over you Q&A site I notice only New Construction is mandatory under ABR; however, in the industry guild section 3.6.4 Construction Activities it states: "It is also possible to have overlapping construction events where in one year the road was constructed and several years later the road was widened." Do I or do I not have to report the widening (or rebuilt, reactivation, reconstruction, ect)
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Jun 22, 2006 -
Patricia Humphreys -
Ref#:622090825
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I understand temporary roads under road permit must be reported; however, if the road has been built and rehabbed within the reportable year is it mandatory to report it? Practically it doesn’t make sense since the road no longer exists and the land has been returned to a natural state.
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Jun 22, 2006 -
The Forest Planning and Practices Regulation, section 86 (http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/F/ForRangPrac/14_2004.htm#section86), identifies road construction that must be reported:
"road construction during the reporting period" means road construction, that is carried on during any number of days in the reporting period, of a road that
(a) is the subject of a road permit and is not in a cutblock,
(b) is a forest service road,
(c) is a permanent access structure under paragraph (a) of the definition in section 1 (1) of this regulation, or
(d) is a permanent access structure under paragraph (b) of the definition in section 1 (1) of this regulation and is longer than 500 m and connected to a road that provides access to the cutblock
whether the construction started before or during that period.
If the road is captured by any of the foregoing, it is required to be reported. In your case, if it is a cutblock road (as opposed to a "road permit road not in a cutblock") and is not captured under 86(c) or (d) then it would not need to be reported. Not that if the road construction was required to be reported, then the deactivation must also be reported (Section 86(2)(b)).
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Mar 1, 2006 -
Tony -
Ref#:301105410
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For annual reporting requirements it is my understanding that there are two regulations still in effect pertaining to As-Built Roads; Section 86 (2) of the Forest Planning and Practices Regulation and Section 8(3) of the Forest Road Regulation. If a company is still operating under an approved Forest Development Plan and does not have an approved FSP I assume it is Section 8(3) of the FRR that applies. That being said I do not see an annual reporting requirement to report deactivated roads.
The question is: For an operation that does not have an approved FSP, do deactivated roads have to be reported as part of the annual reporting requirement? Do they have to be reported as a Major or Minor amendment to the FDP, or not reported at all?
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Mar 27, 2006 -
Brian Chow -
The reporting requirements under FRPA are not specific to those captured by Forest Stewardship Plans. The legislation does not specify that reporting requirements are specific to works completed under an FSP or for that matter, a Forest Development Plan (of the Forest Practices Code). The reporting requirements are for the specified works that are completed in the reporting period.
Deactivation, if completed in the reporting period, is required to be reported.
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Feb 28, 2006 -
Chris -
Ref#:228155618
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We are staring to report road building for the period April 1, 2005 to March 31, 2006. Some of our roads are additions to roads previouly submitted to ABR. Do we need to re-submit all previous information plus the new information?
For example: In 2004 Road "A" was built station 500 and we were hauling on it, this was reported to ABR. Then in 2005 we build another 500m of that road to the end. we are going to report this to ABR, in the XML, does the information for the first 500m of road need to be submitted (i.e. construction dates, data quality, organic, etc...) OR do we just submit data for the 500m piece that was built in 2005 with the linework (GML) for the entire 1000m?
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Mar 1, 2006 -
If it is all identified as a single road section then you will need to report the full 1000m. All of the previous events on the section will be deleted and replaced in the new submission, so the new submission should include all the events (construction dates, data quality, organics, etc.) from the first submission, plus construction dates, data quality, and any other events for the newly constructed road.
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