Forest and Range Practices Act Technical Questions and Answers


On January 31, 2004 the Forest and Range Practices Act (FRPA) came into force. Resource management practitioners who gained new legal obligations requested answers to technical questions that were not addressed in the written material.

This Website provides answers to some technical questions on the 2004 Forest and Range Practices Act and regulations. Please note that revisions to the Act and regulations may render some of the answers obsolete. Please refer to the 2005 Questions and answers.

General information about FRPA and the Forest Practices Code can be found at [http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/code]

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Mar 4, 2005 - Susan Muhlberger - Ref#:304091423
Is a CWAP required under FRPA? The new community watershed objective (FPPR sec. 8.2(2)) certainly alludes to this, but nothing is stated outright.
  • Apr 14, 2005 - Ian Miller -
    The professional preparing the plan determines what types, and the specific details, of any assessments that may be required to prepare the plan.
Mar 2, 2005 - Grant Thompson - Ref#:302070855
Community Forest Pilot Agreements have a five year term, at the end of which both the government and license holder will negotiate replacement of the licence with one of a longer term.

Is the holder of a CFPA obligated to develop a FSP even though their license term is only five years?
Feb 25, 2005 - Ernie de Geus - Ref#:225142224
I have an area that has been harvested in accordance with a site plan prepared for a FDP approved cutblock.

The harvest area overlaps areas encompassed by a Ministry of Transportation and Highways pit plan, and there is likely to be expansion of an existing pit into the site plan harvested area.

Is there provision within current legislation whereby we could now approach the DM to ask for a site plan exemption for that portion of the harvested area which is within the targeted expansion area of the pit?
Feb 18, 2005 - G. A. Thompson - Ref#:218075427
Community Forest Pilot Agreements have a term of 5 years, and by definition, may not necessarily be replaced by a longer term tenure. What is the obligation of the CFPA holder to move from FDPs to FSPs if their current term "straddles" the transition period?
  • Mar 10, 2005 - Charlie Western -
    They will need an FSP if they wish to have new CP issued post transition period. They could also maximize the roll-over provision under FRPA section 196 to ensure they what wood under permit until the end of their license period. Our Transition bulletin expands on these options and should be available on the PFIT web site or RTEB internal web site.

Dec 22, 2004 - K. Rouck - Ref#:1222160809
What reporting is required in the upcoming year re: Section 86(2) and Section 112 relevant to Section 86.1(2) and 86.1(3)? Section 86.1(2) seems to allow for a transition period, but appears to be overridden by Section 86.1(3).
  • Apr 12, 2005 - Ian Miller -

    Forest Planning and Practices Regulation sections 86 (2) and 112 contain obligations regarding annual reporting of road-related activities. 86 (2) is the general FRPA obligation, while 112 provides the same FRPA reporting obligations for roads currently managed and reported on under the FPC rules.

    You are correct in that FPPR section 86.1 (2) provides a transition period.....instead of annual reporting in these early years of FRPA implementation, the obligation for road reporting on road works from April 1 2003 up to March 31, 2005 is to report by December 31 2005.

    However, there is no "over-ride" or other direct linkage from these road-related reporting requirements to FPPR 86.1 (3), as (3) specifically only deals with reporting of harvesting for blocks greater than one hectare.

    Note that there are currently two incorrect cross-references in section 112 (2).....the wording of the subsection should be: "Subject to section 86.2, an agreement holder who is exempt under subsection (1) must comply with section 86 (2) and 86.1 (2)."
Oct 12, 2004 - George Hoberg - Ref#:1012121424


July 27, 2004

Honourable Michael de Jong Minister of Forests

Dear Minister de Jong,

I am very concerned about the direction of the Forest Range and Practices Act reflected by the enactment of Bill 33, and its amendments to Section 16 of FRPA. This amendment would alter the approval authority for a Forest Stewardship Plan by allowing plans or amendments to be approved when "a person with prescribed qualifications certifies that it conforms to section 5 in relation to prescribed subject matter."

My objections to this provision are both procedural and substantive. Procedurally, this provision is a significant departure from the regulatory model discussed publicly, considered in the legislature and by the Minister's Public Advisory Council, embodied in regulations issued in December 2003, and upon which an extensive training program was based. It is very troubling that such a significant change in the regulatory framework through which we protect public values in the forest could be legislated so late in the day and with such little awareness and scrutiny by interested parties or the public.

Substantively, the provision represents a troubling shift in the balance between government and industry in the protection of forest values. FPRA, as I had understood it prior to Bill 33, is based on government establishing very broad objectives for what it considers to be a complete range of forest values. Some of these objectives will be specified in greater detail and made legally binding at the landscape level (e.g., the old growth order). They are supplemented by prescriptive default standards for the protection of a number of values (e.g., buffers for riparian areas). Licencees are granted the latitude to propose results and strategies that differ from the default standards, but those results and strategies need to be approved by a responsible government official. This model, as I saw it, was the crucial compromise between the government's initial model of May 2002 and the COFI model that was represented in the consultation process. I supported a similar compromise in the consultation process, although the approval test eventually adopted is different, and less rigorous, than I had envisioned. Despite my concerns about the approval test, it seems like an innovative model worth trying, with careful observation about how the approval process proceeded.

Bill 33 has the potential to change the model significantly. If broadly constructed, it would delegate far more discretionary power to licensees (through their professional employees) than envisioned in the model publicly discussed and debated. I am opposed to (hat much power being granted to licencees. I believe it is important to keep government accountable for protecting public values. And frankly, I doubt very much that the professional foresters (the only profession involved with which I am familiar) are ready for that amount of responsibility, especially given the sad state of affairs of continuing education. Admittedly, if very narrowly constructed, it is not a significant change in the model, but the legislation places no limits on how broadly it can be constructed through regulation.

As you know, environmentalists have been critical of FRPA for letting "industry write its own rules." Until now, there has been a sensible response: industry proposes rules, but government approves them. But that response is undercut by Bill 33, which really does authorize the industry to write its own rules.

I believe the regulatory framework for forest and range practices would be better off without broad legislative authority to delegate approval authority to professionals. Therefore, I would prefer to see that section of Bill 33 amended. In the interim, I urge you to clarify publicly what the government's intentions are with the FRPA Section 16 provisions of Bill 33. I urge you to confirm that our regulatory framework makes government accountable for the public interest in the protection of forest values in British Columbia.

Sincerely yours,

Original Signed by George Hoberg

George Hoberg
Professor and Head
Department of Forest Resources Management
The University of British Columbia
2nd Floor, Forest Sciences Centre
2045-2424 Main Mall
Vancouver, BC Canada V8T 1Z4

cc: Doug Konkin, Deputy Minister of Forests,
and Larry Pedersen, Chief Forester

  • Oct 13, 2004 - Response from Chief Forester Larry Pedersen -
    to Professor Hoberg

    Dear Professor Hoberg:

    Thank you for your letter of July 27, 2004, to the Honourable Michael de Jong, Minister of Forests regarding the direction of the Forest and Range Practices Act (FRPA): I have been asked to respond.

    Your concerns, as articulated, are focused on the provisions in Bill 33 that enable a role for resource professionals in the approval of Forest Stewardship Plans. That role, and the qualifications of the person performing it, will be defined in amendments to the Forest Practices and Planning Regulation (FPPR), which we hope to have before Cabinet early this fall.

    I understand that you have not signed a confidentiality agreement related to the FRPA and its regulations that would allow me to outline the details of what government is proposing with respect to regulatory amendments. However, hopefully you will find the following principled response helpful. I would be happy to provide a more detailed response if you do sign the agreement, or once the FPPR has been amended and deposited.

    In your letter, you expressed both procedural and substantive objections to the Bill 33 amendments related to the FPPR. I will deal first with your procedural objections.

    During the debate of Bill 74 (introducing the FRPA in 2002), the minister committed to the creation of a Public Advisory Committee. As you know, this committee was created and provided oversight of the FRPA regulations. I can advise you that this committee was also given the opportunity to review and discuss the proposed Bill 33 amendments to the FRPA before they were introduced to the legislature. The advice given by the Public Advisory Committee to the minister is posted on their web site and is publicly available. This information was considered by the minister in finalizing the legislation and attendant regulations.

    This leads to my response to your substantive objections. I would like to address your contention that Bill 33 delegates far more discretionary power to licensees, through their professional employees. The clear intention of the legislature is to invest this authority in qualified people, not in licence holders. While it is true that most licence holders will have qualified people in their employ, it is also true that such people, if exercising this discretionary power, are bound by their governing legislation to act in the public interest. The legislation of resource professionals has been amended, or enacted, as required to make this matter clear and ensure that balanced accountability mechanisms are in place. This is the same model of professional accountability that has been employed by lawyers and doctors for decades and I hope that you can agree in principle that moving toward such an accountability model for resource professionals is appropriate, given their extensive education and training.

    However, I believe it would be inappropriate to initially apply this professional accountability model broadly to Forest Stewardship Plan approval. It is important that resource professionals demonstrate that they can apply their judgement in the public interest, in order to build public confidence in this model. As well, I agree with your observations about the state of continuing education and the risk that this poses to resource professionals working efficiently in this new paradigm. Hopefully this situation will be resolved in the not too distant future.

    For these reasons, it is government's intention to narrowly define in regulation those planning elements that could move to the oversight of resource professionals {remember, this is an authority that is discretionary, not mandatory). I do not believe that what is being proposed will be a significant change from the existing model, but it should allow, over time, for an orderly transition to greater reliance on resource professionals in this area.

    I will discuss this matter more fully with you the next time we meet. Please feel free to contact either me at 250-387-1296 or Ralph Archibald, Director of the Forest Practices Branch at
    250-953-3582, at your convenience, if you require any clarification of points made in this letter.

    Yours truly,

    Original Signed by Larry Pedersen

    Larry Pedersen Chief Forester

    pc:
    The Honourable Michael de Jong, Minister of Forests
    Doug Konkin, Deputy Minister
    Ralph Archibald, Director, Forest Practices Branch



Sep 14, 2004 - Cindy Hutchison - Ref#:914152717
We are working under a Forest Development Plan and are trying to clarify and simplify our process for establishing Helicopter Service Landings (HSL) and Helicopter Log Drop Zones (HDZ) within our TFL.

The THSPR defines a landing as:
“landing” means an area of land that has been modified by equipment to make it suitable for accumulating logs before they are transported.

A HDZ is usually a road used to accumulate logs for transport. Occasionally the roadside area is further modified by equipment (ballasted to support a loader), but not always. Is it reasonable to say that when the road was originally built the area was modified by equipment to make it suitable for a HDZ? Using this interpretation, any road can be used as a landing as long as it has the right characteristics for accumulating logs. Can we call a HDZ a landing? If not, how should a HDZ be defined?

A HSL does not meet the THSPR definition of a landing, as there is no accumulation of logs, however the road usually requires further construction or modification in order to have an area large enough to service a helicopter.

The Road Permit grants the right to harvest trees from the clearing area to the extent necessary to construct or modify, and use and maintain a road as follows:

1.00 GRANT OF RIGHTS
1.01. Subject to the Forest Act and its Regulations, and the Forest Practices Code of
B.C. Act, and its Regulations and Standards, the District Manager grants to the
Permittee the right to either:
(a) construct or modify the road to the standards/specifications described in the attached Schedules and to the extent necessary harvest from the Clearing Area, that Crown timber described in the attached schedules, that must be logged in order to construct or modify the road and use and maintain the road...

Section 8(1)(g) of the FRR indicates that the clearing width must accommodate (vi) the operation of equipment (HSL) and (x) a landing (HDZ).

Can we then interpret that, because a HSL and HDZ is part of the road clearing width, there is no further approval required (beyond the original Road Permit) to harvest trees to construct, modify, use, or maintain an area within the road status width for the purposes of servicing a helicopter or landing logs?

HDZ or HSL may or may not require further construction, and may or may not be placed in a RMA. Under what circumstances would a Road Layout and Design be required?
  • Sep 20, 2004 - Wayne Hagel -
    The authority of a road permit grants the holder the right to construct/use landings within the permit area and applies to landings used for helicopter logging operations. If a larger area than that provided by the permit was required, a special use permit would be needed, as described in section 7(1) of the Provincial Forest Use Regulation. Section 5.1 of the Forest Road Regulation describes the situations for which the district manager's approval of a layout and design is required, and includes constructing a landing or modifying of an existing one as part of the road.
Aug 16, 2004 - Kamloops district - Ref#:816093153
Why is a "gully process" only important on the Coast. It is equally if not more important in the Interior?


  • Aug 16, 2004 - Glenn Moore -
    Refer to response provided for a similar question on this topic [Ref#:217125635].

Aug 15, 2004 - Matt Wealick - Ref#:815160431
Under what section in FRPA does it state you can have multiple licensees under one FSP?
  • Aug 17, 2004 - Kathy Hopkins -
    FRPA section 3(4)
Aug 11, 2004 - Unknown - entered by Kathy Hopkins - Ref#:811113151
Does the MOF have a process or protocol established regarding monitoring professional accountability or is it up to individual staff to bring questions/complaints to the applicable association regarding practicing professionals?
  • Aug 11, 2004 - Al Gorley -
    The premise of professional reliance is that the professional regulatory bodies are responsible for registering members and holding members accountable for their professional practice and conduct.

    The MOF has an interest in the success of professional reliance as a key aspect of the FRPA policy architecture and will work with the professional regulatory bodies accordingly.

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